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The most painful team to support this EPL season.
conos
#101 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:25:44 PM
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winston wrote:
@all...some people said that chelsea's season begun at the Citizens. For them to retain the title they must arrive in December with somewhere between 8- 10 points difference at the top. If they dont then the December fixtures look like a mini-world cup.

They will play [b]Everton (Home), Spurs (Away), Man-U(Home), Arsenal(Away) and Bolton (Home)


@winston u should note that no team shall be on holiday during this time.All teams will be having fixtures to honour. manu,arsenal and the rest are blaming lack of depth, thats why they are dropping points.I wonder what miracle will have happened since all teams will have to wait till january to adjust their squads.
Also note three points collected from a top four team are equal to those collected from bottom ten team as per a manager but different as from fans point of view.
SAF is worried coz man u is dropping points where they could have picked them easily n remember: i mbere, i mbere ona akorwo ni funda!
ukiona choo kwa ndoto usiingie, ni mtego!
smano
#102 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:50:52 PM
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Personally I have conceded early...the 3 seasons we won in a row was by picking points against mid table and relegation teams...I hope we do well in the gamble that is the CL, and by doing well I literally mean winning the damn thing.

EPL maybe next season - as much as 5 points gap is only a loss and a draw for them with 2 wins for Man Utd to be at par,I am certain we'll drop points again and again and again, as we have consistently shown so far, and am also certain Chelsea will not undergo a breakdown of epic proportions a la The Kop so far.

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#103 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:57:08 PM
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At least you are a realist.....Asiye kubali kushindwa si mshindani!
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MaichBlack
#104 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 5:24:35 PM
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smano wrote:
Personally I have conceded early...the 3 seasons we won in a row was by picking points against mid table and relegation teams...

EPL maybe next season.....

....I am certain we'll drop points again and again and again, as we have consistently shown so far,

Habari ndiyo hio

@smano - Maybe you should just become an Arsenal supporter. With that kind of attitude, you'd find yourself at home with other Arsenal supporters. Did you notice the first person to support you? An Arsenal supporter since 1942!

Njung'e wrote:
At least you are a realist.....Asiye kubali kushindwa si mshindani!

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winston
#105 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:56:01 AM
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@conos...Points against top sides and bottom sides are of equal value but the confidence boost is not the same.

While I have made assumptions that the other teams in between will be making similarly good progress, we can expect that all teams will lose points here and there. But I wanted to highlight that if I were seated at stamford bridge, I would aim to arrive in December with maximum points (do-able but not probable) so that i can have some cushion for the mini-world cup.

BTW...SAF is quoted as saying that chelsea should have had a 100% record as of now. That is not very kind to Man-city or Arsenal. In his eyes these were foregone conclusions that chelsea will win. Perhaps this lack of appreciating or is it respecting other teams other than chelsea is what is costing man-u the draws!
mwenza
#106 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:08:16 PM
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@Conos and @Winston..........I beg to differ. 3Points against small teams and 3points against your title rival are not the same.

Assume that with one match to go before the end of the season Chelsea is 2points ahead of The Mighty Man-U. Then the very last game of the season pits Man-U against Chelsea. If Man-U wins that match, they will take the title by one point. Get it?

Consider a different scenario. Assume both teams have same number of points but chelsea have a better goal difference of plus one. In the final match, if say Man-U beat Chelsea by 2 clear goals, Man U takes the title.

I have given these two scenarios and assumed the final match of the season to make my point clearer. Otherwise the effects of the matches at whatever stage of the season is the same in as far as the eventual title winner is concerned.

To win the league, you gain a lot of advantage when you hit your rival. Of coz morale boosting and bragging rights also come into the scene.

Food for thought!
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TAZ
#107 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:43:00 PM
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Mwenza....i don't think you are getting this points thing. What we are trying to say is that you don't get more points than usual for winning against big teams neither do you get less points for defeating small teams....If you win against Chelsea this weekend and lose against Blackpool the next weekend then you haven't done much to improve your title chances.
mwenza
#108 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:37:55 PM
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TAZ wrote:
Mwenza....i don't think you are getting this points thing. What we are trying to say is that you don't get more points than usual for winning against big teams neither do you get less points for defeating small teams....If you win against Chelsea this weekend and lose against Blackpool the next weekend then you haven't done much to improve your title chances.



@TAZ..........Agreed. However, my point is that a victory against a fellow title contender is definitely more important than a victory against any other team. The scenarios I have given above are meant to drive that point home.

This reminds me of another scenario. Suppose am on a salary of 200K per month and you are on 10K. Then both of us get a sack so we end up with ZERO salaries thereafter. Are these two zeroes the same? Definitely not!
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nostoppingthis
#109 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 4:18:25 PM
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@MaichBlack, i will remember your last post at the end of the season...
TAZ
#110 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 10:52:46 AM
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TOP FIVE RICHEST CLUB OWNERS - UK
1. Sheikh Mansour ( Man City) - £20 bn
2. Lakshmi Mittal (QPR) - £17 bn
3. Alisher Usmanov (Arsenal) - £8 bn
4. Roman Abramovich (Chelsea) - £7.4 bn
5. Liebherr family (Southampton) - £3 bn

TOP FIVE RICHEST PLAYERS - UK
1. David Beckham - £100 million
2. Michael Owen - £40 million
3. Rio Ferdinand - £34 million
4. Sol Campbell - £31 million
5. Ryan Giggs - £27 million

TOP FIVE RICHEST MANAGERS - UK
1. Fabio Capello - £36 million
2. Roy Keanne - £28 million
3. Alex Ferguson - £22 million
4. Carlo Ancelotti - £21 million
5. Arsene Wenger - £17 million
winston
#111 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 11:08:30 AM
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@TAZ...Seems SAF is not very good with his money...Three of his current players (Owen, Rio, Giggs) and ex player now coach (Keane) are richer than him! He should fire his wealth advisors/managers!
TAZ
#112 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 11:12:40 AM
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Winston....the most surprising is Sol Campbell
McReggae
#113 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 12:54:33 PM
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Winston, in most cases players earn and get more money from endorsements and sponsorships than managers!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
winston
#114 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 11:33:17 AM
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@taz...seems sol knows what he is doing -hopping from one club to another and keeping the pounds flowing.

@mcreggae - Agreed. But for all his success he should negotiate better pay from the glazer family. Anyway...wealth is a function of many factors. Pay being only one. And even if Man-u dont win the EPL this season... SAF can rest happy being ahead of Ancellotti, Wenger and the entire EPL coaches on the wealth front!
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#115 Posted : Sunday, October 17, 2010 11:07:53 PM
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#116 Posted : Sunday, October 17, 2010 11:30:45 PM
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i agree. this is the lowest we have sank since in the 60's. i didnt believed it when we lost the marseyside derby that way.
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PKoli
#117 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 12:24:02 AM
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Sober wrote:
i agree. this is the lowest we have sank since in the 60's. i didnt believed it when we lost the marseyside derby that way.


The biggest problem now is that the players have so much tension and stress!! especially when they meet smaller teams. it will be a surprise when they meet Man Untd. They will play their hearts out
Njung'e
#118 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 10:41:28 AM
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I am not a fan of Fools but watching their match against Everton,i can say with certainty that they will rise.....I want to believe that you cannot under-estimate any team at the moment after watching the smallest team (Financial-wise) against "Petrodollars".Really,BP outplayed MC in all departments.They played the most basic football full of exciting touches,skills and clever moves.If this is what the big ones are upto,then there are many more points to be dropped.
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mwenza
#119 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 11:08:04 AM
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PKoli wrote:
Sober wrote:
i agree. this is the lowest we have sank since in the 60's. i didnt believed it when we lost the marseyside derby that way.


The biggest problem now is that the players have so much tension and stress!! especially when they meet smaller teams. it will be a surprise when they meet Man Untd. They will play their hearts out



They have already been beaten by the Mighty Man U.
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TAZ
#120 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 11:24:34 AM
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Mwenza....Whats up with your team? Rooney and SAF are no longer in speaking terms, Van Der Sar is the new Fabianski, Evra seems to have lost his form and Giggs is again out injured.
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