Read whatever you may.... but yeah, I would love to see that someday....... Or may be we should allow them to sodomise our children so that we can GUARANTEE them a ticket to heaven.....

Why aren't we fighting for the rights of those who practice beastiality/zoophillia, prostitution, and child molestation in the same breath or dont they have rights too?

I thought this topic is about Gays.... not doctors... doctors had their day in another thread unless you missed it.

If it is illegal them please take them to court for trial. I have my own thoughts on any laws that try to judge morality.
In the meantime, I will abstain from lining up to stone the next person I consider immoral. I have my own moral issues to deal with.

Just a thought.

I think we are blowing this issue out of proportion. No one said they have no moral issues. We all do, and many more may be more than the gayism...... But i also know i do not have to hide my feelings about it just because i have my moral issues...... I dont have to condone it just because am not an angel(which am not if i may declare right here).... the gay also have a right to express their dislike on the "straights" moral decay.... and i would have no problem if they shouted it on top of the hills even if i practice the same vice... Its their opinion......

There're lots of gay men in marriages,a fact most of us opt to turn a blind eye to. When arguing lets not get too emotional to see the point. Gays are there,but does that mean they're out there to sodomize our kids? It's said that in every 30min,a woman is raped in Kenya. 70% of these are our little girls. Raped and molested by our very own straight brothers and husbands.

The issue here is not gaysim and whether it's morally wrong or right. The issue is: Should healthcare be affordable and accessible to all regardless of their sexual orientation?

I was going to ask this yesterday but on reading @leona's response, i thought may be i was "emotional" and thought well, it could be coz am pretty passionate on this issue and decided to think it through..... and i have concluded may be what i need here is education.

@leona/rasilio/anyone else who has some info that i may not have.....

Please explain to me like a 4 year old how the gay are denied access to medical care in this country....

What i did yesterday, i decided to ask anyone who cared to respond these three questions and they all seemed to have the same no-answer unless there is someone here who has a contrary experience

I asked them if they have, recently, sought medical services and if on any form they were required to fill in on their medical history they came across questions such as follows

11.(a) Are you gay?
(b) Is there anyone in your family who has ever suffered from this condition?
(c) If any of the above answers is in the affirmative, please explain.

12. how did you contract your disease - especially the case of HIV

They also confirmed that none of the doctors they consulted asked them, directly or indirectly any of these questions. I also have never been asked these questions in all my many years in this good earth. So my humble question is, how are these guys discriminated against when they seek medical services?(am just ignorant)

This led me to some conclusions that either

1. there is a streak of HIV that targets only the gay people (and thats how doctors and other health professionals get to know how these guys contracted it hence deny them medical attention)

2. There may be a special condition (which i am not aware of) that affects this group of people and the only way it is contracted is through this practice

3. If none of the above is true, then they could be using this (to win sympathizers) to demand that we accept their practice as normal.

Well, i dont know, but may be this education will help me accept charles Wanjiku (formally Charles Mwangi) as my "daughter in law" and may be manage to help "her" adjust her straps on "her" wedding day knowing very well all those straps are supporting is some mandazi nylon papers stuffed with some old magazettis for a 'chesty' look (ngai fafa... God forbid)