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komera
#121 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:18:14 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
komera wrote:
kyt wrote:
what was you exit point @ komera?

i dont have KCb in the real market. Was jus provoking the minds of guys who have it but if i did have i'd apply my exit strategy in all stocks i buy. +10% is enough for me.


@komera, when you make your 10%, what do you do with the cash? And what do you do once the counter you have sold rises another 10%? What if it falls by say 5% below your selling price?


usually use stocks watch, shop for bargain counters so when i sell i wait and buy from my watch list. but if the stock i bought follows me down that is a 5 % decrease and i still see value in it, why not. you get right back in..have you noticed hfck movement in the last 3 months..moved from 22 to 27 then to a low of 23 now its rising again. bright guys sold at 27 and got back in at 23
PKoli
#122 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:18:48 PM
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guru267 wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
It cant reach 25 and if at all it dares,it will meet alot of supply from the guys who participated in the rights they priced at 25

I'm pretty sure all these guys your talking about sold their stake and drove the price down to 17.65 just after the rights issue was announced....

So i highly doubt 25 will be the resistance...

I'm thinking the guys who got the rights at 17 will start selling like crazy at 22-23 but lets wait and see...


I think what is key for KCB is how they utilize the funds they got during the rights issue and grow their business. The market seems to be noticing how aggressive they have become lately. As long as there is that faith in the bank, I doubt if there will be massive seeling at 22-23. There will be equal demand and hence price sustainability.
komera
#123 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:23:48 PM
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sparkly wrote:
komera wrote:
for those who got in at below kshs 19..you have already made more than 10% gains..is it time to sell or still hang on to the tits hoping to milk some more from this cow. kumbuka tamaa ilimuua fisi

@komera are you serious? 10% is nothing. Consider brokerage fees to get in and out of the share and you are only left with 5% gain. Trailing dividend yield is 5% and The share is still undervalued.


but a net of 5% - 6% in less than 2 weeks is not bad using kcb as an example..though i agree i need to add more appetite in my risk spectrum and maybe go for 10% net as kyt highlights below
PKoli
#124 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:26:47 PM
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Currently, it is the top trader and demand is still huge
guru267
#125 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:29:25 PM
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PKoli wrote:
Currently, it is the top trader and demand is still huge

@pkoli How many shares traded thus far??
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PKoli
#126 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:33:05 PM
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guru267 wrote:
PKoli wrote:
Currently, it is the top trader and demand is still huge

@pkoli How many shares traded thus far??


KCB done a turnover of over KES 82M already. Approx 4 million shares
guru267
#127 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:35:58 PM
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PKoli wrote:
guru267 wrote:
PKoli wrote:
Currently, it is the top trader and demand is still huge

@pkoli How many shares traded thus far??


KCB done a turnover of over KES 82M already. Approx 4 million shares

Sweet that means supply that rushed in is still being taken up....

Very nice!!
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Deuteronomy 4:16
mwanahisa
#128 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:39:57 PM
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komera wrote:
sparkly wrote:
komera wrote:
for those who got in at below kshs 19..you have already made more than 10% gains..is it time to sell or still hang on to the tits hoping to milk some more from this cow. kumbuka tamaa ilimuua fisi

@komera are you serious? 10% is nothing. Consider brokerage fees to get in and out of the share and you are only left with 5% gain. Trailing dividend yield is 5% and The share is still undervalued.


but a net of 5% - 6% in less than 2 weeks is not bad using kcb as an example..though i agree i need to add more appetite in my risk spectrum and maybe go for 10% net as kyt highlights below


You have still not answered my question(s).
mwanahisa
#129 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:42:24 PM
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No, sorry. I was too fast and I jumped the gun. I see your response in 121 above!
mwanahisa
#130 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:55:29 PM
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Latest trade at 22.25. Supply at 22.50, small bids at 22.25.
guru267
#131 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:19:56 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
Latest trade at 22.25. Supply at 22.50, small bids at 22.25.


how far can it go???
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Deuteronomy 4:16
mwanahisa
#132 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:30:32 PM
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My target was 23, so I would be happy to take profit at that level on my 17 shillings rights. On a fundamental basis if Q3 results come out OK, Kshs 25 should be a breeze based on this momentum.
PKoli
#133 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:56:58 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
My target was 23, so I would be happy to take profit at that level on my 17 shillings rights. On a fundamental basis if Q3 results come out OK, Kshs 25 should be a breeze based on this momentum.


KCB was the 1st Bank to realease half year results. They did so in a record time. Will they do the same for 3Q?
guru267
#134 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:01:20 PM
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PKoli wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
My target was 23, so I would be happy to take profit at that level on my 17 shillings rights. On a fundamental basis if Q3 results come out OK, Kshs 25 should be a breeze based on this momentum.


KCB was the 1st Bank to realease half year results. They did so in a record time. Will they do the same for 3Q?


@pkoli that time they were trying to impress investors for the rights issue... though i'll be waiting patiently
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PKoli
#135 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:01:29 PM
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guru267 wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
Latest trade at 22.25. Supply at 22.50, small bids at 22.25.


how far can it go???


Will stabilize at 25
sparkly
#136 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:45:02 PM
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guru267 wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
Latest trade at 22.25. Supply at 22.50, small bids at 22.25.


how far can it go???

nse has returned 40% ytd. Kcb did not participate in the rally coz of the rights fears. From its pre-rights of price of sh 20-21 the index bouyancy should carry it at least 30%. We are therefore looking at sh 26-28 on the basis of the market performance only.
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PKoli
#137 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:19:03 PM
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sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
Latest trade at 22.25. Supply at 22.50, small bids at 22.25.


how far can it go???

nse has returned 40% ytd. Kcb did not participate in the rally coz of the rights fears. From its pre-rights of price of sh 20-21 the index bouyancy should carry it at least 30%. We are therefore looking at sh 26-28 on the basis of the market performance only.


That sounds reasonable. Only problem with KCB is the phobia investors have for the stock. That is why most are looking for opportunity to liquidate. A price of 26-28 should be reasobable. Compaired to its peers its should be slightly over 30.
teletalk
#138 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 5:38:29 PM
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ok, experts kindly enlighten us who are still naive in stock regarding kcb shares! is this just a plan by investors to raise and liquidate the shares or it will raise above 40% mark?
guru267
#139 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:26:12 PM
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teletalk wrote:
ok, experts kindly enlighten us who are still naive in stock regarding kcb shares! is this just a plan by investors to raise and liquidate the shares or it will raise above 40% mark?

@teletalk if one valued KCB the same way HFCK, co op and equity are valued then it ought to be trading at 45bob but we are giving it a modest 26 because of investors fears....

Hmmm.... But I wonder what would happen if their Q3 results surprise on the upside....
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teletalk
#140 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 7:13:34 PM
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guru 267> i ws optimistic to thinkin it should be raisin abv wht its tradin now. If i may ask, wht do yu think abt Tps serena, kenol/kobil. tryin to get infor abt Eaagads ltd bt cnt find any even on Nse. wht do they trade in?
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