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Unit Trust...HMMM
guru267
#21 Posted : Tuesday, October 05, 2010 1:15:26 PM
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Ric dees wrote:

@guru267

I think we can't generalize, last year my portfolio (Kenya) made 70% while my unit trusts made 130% so what would you advice...seek more knowledge!! and note i am not an active investor.

So did the unit trusts give all the 130% back to the investors.?? Can an investor claim all the profits made with her money???

I'm sure you enjoyed every last penny of your 70%...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
young
#22 Posted : Tuesday, October 05, 2010 1:33:36 PM
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Well Guru267 different strokes to different folks. You are an investment professional I believe you know the best.

My take on this is that it is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to allow a portion of your funds to be managed by other experts as one cannot be perfect in solo stocks investment (Remember of recent Kenya RE, Mumias, KQ, Safcom), some peoples expectation were dashed.

Even for leverage reasons, insurance companies spread their risk by investing on other insurance firms (Re-Insurance).

These days no man is an island, collective investment in 21st century from my point of view is a wise decision.

The question remains, which are the good fund managers around ?

I cannot speak about Kenya as I am not there, but there is NONE in my country Nigeria in terms of consistency and salutory returns.

I pitched my tent with Ghana based fund manager cum stockbrokers called databank group of Ghana www.databankgroup.com since 2003.
I subscribe to E-pack product and the average return since then is 40% including the 2008/2009 economic down turn.

HOW ?
They invest in not less than 11 African stock exchanges, in Kenya they have a large stake in Equity, EABL, KPLC, and Jubilee !!!

Asante Sana
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sheep
#23 Posted : Tuesday, October 05, 2010 1:36:22 PM
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I was just thinking if one invested an initial 100k and add 5k per month(60k annually) for a period of 20yrs...

* 50% growth p.a(stocksmakmende styleLaughing out loudly) =930m!!!(435m inflation adjusted assuming an inflation of 6%)

* 20% growth per annum will be 17m(7.6m inflation adjusted 6%)

* 10%=only 4.4m(2m)

* 5%=only 2.3(1.1m)

* savings account 2%=1.6m(847k)

* under mattress=1.3m(696k)

most investors will fall in the 10% range unless u are a suave stock picker like buffet 20%+


The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
young
#24 Posted : Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:33:45 PM
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Here is the rudiment of Databank E-pack product
There is a full disclosure of what and where they invest in.

http://www.databankgroup...te/index1.php?linkid=142
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mwanahisa
#25 Posted : Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:13:09 PM
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Ric dees wrote:

@guru267

I think we can't generalize, last year my portfolio (Kenya) made 70% while my unit trusts made 130% so what would you advice...seek more knowledge!! and note i am not an active investor.


Care to let us know which unit trust(s) these were? While past returns are not necessarily a guide to the future blah, blah ..., this would be pretty good information to know if one is planning to go the unit trust way.
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