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Wa_ithaka
#261 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:39:31 AM
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I think Mumias has touched bottom and will see Ksh14 by the time the dividend closing date comes around.
The announcment of financing for the ethanol plant is useful upside for at least the next 6 months after which I expect to see some downgrade as Mumias may have to do a rights issue
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bartum
#262 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:34:04 PM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
I think Mumias has touched bottom and will see Ksh14 by the time the dividend closing date comes around.
The announcment of financing for the ethanol plant is useful upside to at least for the next 6 months after which i expect to see some downgrade as Mumias may have to do a rights issue
DYOR

a right issue with mumias before comesa safeguard issue is solve is highly unlikely. Unless to strickly finance tarda project.
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Wa_ithaka
#263 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 6:03:43 PM
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Bartumu-Mumias itself said it'll do a mixture of debt and equity
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#264 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 6:36:21 PM
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where is that @Njunge type of a fellow who was screaming mumias is a sell. Hiyo ndiyo mimi na sema ni kumbafu xana....
This is definately gud news for the short term and i just wait to see where this stock will take me.
@bartum. so you say mumias will recieve a downgrade ???? lol.probably in one million years to come.
as for those who bought Unga anticiating explosive eps i just cannt stop laughing at the loss you guys are staring at.HAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!The stock is down 9% in one single day...Next time you'll think twice before followin the herd.
This wazua herd has definately led you to the slaughter house.
Some of of you are boasting to even have 15% of ur portfolio in this junk stock calld Unga.
When you are supposed to be amussin all the funds and investing in good co. to ride this bull market u waste you hard earned money in this Junk called Unga ?????!!!!! @ guru i thought u were clever enough.
eeheheh!!!!! Let me just stop there coz mayb my turn is around the corner.
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guru267
#265 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 6:57:43 PM
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@qw... Unga was a gamble and i sold today at 8% loss....

Now i'm looking for a new gamble....

But believe me my holdings in KCB and KPLC are MORE than covering my losses in unga....
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shauriyako
#266 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:15:13 PM
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My biggest chunk - 12.85 Sad Sad Sad

@GG We are joined at the hip on this one. I got myself some 20K units at 12.90 and was getting jittery - now I am holding my breath - I hope not for long till I break even on this lot.
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the deal
#267 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:16:42 PM
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@qw your speculative counter Eveready has lost 10.59%(4.25-3.80) between 10 August-30 September...MSC lost 13.17% in the same period...Access Kenya lost 6.90%...bringing your total losses to an average of 10% in the above mentioned period...yet Unga lost only 3.5% in the same period...numbers courtesy of Wazua stock perfomance section...
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Aguytrying
#268 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:33:15 PM
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the deal wrote:
@qw your speculative counter Eveready has lost 10.59%(4.25-3.80) between 10 August-30 September...MSC lost 13.17% in the same period...Access Kenya lost 6.90%...bringing your total losses to an average of 10% in the above mentioned period...yet Unga lost only 3.5% in the same period...numbers courtesy of Wazua stock perfomance section...


@deal. i know! whats ur reaction to unga's price fall. are ppl really selling off? like mumias, could this be a deja vu
d'oh!
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#269 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:08:55 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
the deal wrote:
@qw your speculative counter Eveready has lost 10.59%(4.25-3.80) between 10 August-30 September...MSC lost 13.17% in the same period...Access Kenya lost 6.90%...bringing your total losses to an average of 10% in the above mentioned period...yet Unga lost only 3.5% in the same period...numbers courtesy of Wazua stock perfomance section...


@deal. i know! whats ur reaction to unga's price fall. are ppl really selling off? like mumias, could this be a deja vu
d'oh!

Dividend yield didn't impress and this stock is largely retail held so expect some speculative selling to take this stock back to 11.50
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#270 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:04:18 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
the deal wrote:
@qw your speculative counter Eveready has lost 10.59%(4.25-3.80) between 10 August-30 September...MSC lost 13.17% in the same period...Access Kenya lost 6.90%...bringing your total losses to an average of 10% in the above mentioned period...yet Unga lost only 3.5% in the same period...numbers courtesy of Wazua stock perfomance section...


@deal. i know! whats ur reaction to unga's price fall. are ppl really selling off? like mumias, could this be a deja vu
d'oh!

Dividend yield didn't impress and this stock is largely retail held so expect some speculative selling to take this stock back to 11.50


considering its the first dividend in 5 yrs, and its yield is around 4%, i mean, that should be enough to excite even those retail investors. somethings off here....
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#271 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 10:24:10 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
the deal wrote:
@qw your speculative counter Eveready has lost 10.59%(4.25-3.80) between 10 August-30 September...MSC lost 13.17% in the same period...Access Kenya lost 6.90%...bringing your total losses to an average of 10% in the above mentioned period...yet Unga lost only 3.5% in the same period...numbers courtesy of Wazua stock perfomance section...


@deal. i know! whats ur reaction to unga's price fall. are ppl really selling off? like mumias, could this be a deja vu
d'oh!

Dividend yield didn't impress and this stock is largely retail held so expect some speculative selling to take this stock back to 11.50


considering its the first dividend in 5 yrs, and its yield is around 4%, i mean, that should be enough to excite even those retail investors. somethings off here....

Whats off is that there is NO expected increase in profits going forward....
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#272 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 11:56:03 AM
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the deal wrote:
@qw your speculative counter Eveready has lost 10.59%(4.25-3.80) between 10 August-30 September...MSC lost 13.17% in the same period...Access Kenya lost 6.90%...bringing your total losses to an average of 10% in the above mentioned period...yet Unga lost only 3.5% in the same period...numbers courtesy of Wazua stock perfomance section...


if his fantasy portfolio is anything to go by.. i pity those who follow this dude.
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Aguytrying
#273 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 12:03:47 PM
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ProverB wrote:
the deal wrote:
@qw your speculative counter Eveready has lost 10.59%(4.25-3.80) between 10 August-30 September...MSC lost 13.17% in the same period...Access Kenya lost 6.90%...bringing your total losses to an average of 10% in the above mentioned period...yet Unga lost only 3.5% in the same period...numbers courtesy of Wazua stock perfomance section...


if his fantasy portfolio is anything to go by.. i pity those who follow this dude.

@proverb. You are seriously cracking me up. Laughing out loudly
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#274 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 12:21:58 PM
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@ deal . i shld pity you more .werent u the same guy who said you had a large share of your portfolio in unga .and now you are consoling yourself ati gains in kcb and blah ! blah ! blah ! blah ! will cover your loss. I bet that loss is big and you just dnt want to accept.it .its okay its human nature.Lick your wounds slowly so that next time you know where to invest properly.
And by the way why have losses even if they'll be covered up by other gains.thats not the purpose of investing.
@proverb. Dnt tell me you also bought Unga for the gamble.I thought you were mature enough ?Even you got your arse whipped.well, that gives me a double dose of laughter. ehehheeh!!!!!
@ guy tryin. you also got whiped by unga . hahahahha . May b u were just a guy tryin and you shld leave the stock market for pro.
And to set the record straight >

1. Mumias was given a buy recommendation.Thats says allot where the price is headed .And it'll recoup some of its losses.

2. AccessKenya is rallyin.from its lows in 17.00 to current price of 19.00 . my simple mathematics tells me that my losses will be recoupd.

3. As for Everready . let me make this clear i NEVER invested actual money in the counter.Coz i know all to well the stock market isnt a gambling place but just said we shld look out for it if it starts acting up we jumpin.And it hasnt.

All you Unga fanatics you crack me up ...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA !!!!!!!!!! KULENI USHUNGU POLE POLE ...
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Aguytrying
#275 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 9:20:38 PM
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@qw. I havent made a loss with unga coz my entry was below 12. Im still in the green as it is.
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guru267
#276 Posted : Saturday, October 02, 2010 8:37:56 AM
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@qw... For a guy who's at POSITION 176 on the fantasy market, your hardly in any position to rant and rave about people's losses in unga....

I'm very sure many guys who bought unga practiced adequate risk management because even if unga crashed my portfolio was still up for september....

Dude the only losses i see are in YOUR PORTFOLIO.... Laughing out loudly
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VituVingiSana
#277 Posted : Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:03:47 AM
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LOL... I am happy to buy more Unga coz I am happy to hold for 3 years... I expect some form of a 'sale' of the assets (land) that Unga has in Nairobi's Industrial Area... In the meantime, I will take any dividends as the cream!
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#278 Posted : Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:19:57 AM
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shauriyako
#279 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:48:41 PM
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@all - Mumias stands out as the odd one out in my portfolio. I need to finish the realignment on my portfolio and the question that comes to mind is - Is there any chance that we will see a rally on this counter towards book closure? If I get out now I will lock in about 10% gain but with 50K units the potential dividends look good too. Your valued advise is sought on this, People.
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guru267
#280 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 8:56:32 PM
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shauriyako wrote:
@all - Mumias stands out as the odd one out in my portfolio. I need to finish the realignment on my portfolio and the question that comes to mind is - Is there any chance that we will see a rally on this counter towards book closure? If I get out now I will lock in about 10% gain but with 50K units the potential dividends look good too. Your valued advise is sought on this, People.


@shauriyako this stock MIGHT rally towards books closure but even if it did it wouldnt make it over 13.8 bob.... then there's also the possibility investors will realise that they will lose more in capital depreciation than the dividends they'll make and they bail...


for example i only hold stocks for dividend if i'm sure theý'll go up after books closure...

trust me the investors who bought kenya re and safcom before books closure to wait for dividends know exactly what i'm talking about....
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