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Industrial Stocks to drive the NSE to 5000 points
mlennyma
#81 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:53:00 PM
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The biggest enemy of this market is safcom despite its poor perfomance the market is about to create a new 2010 high,lets hope it joins the party
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youcan'tstopusnow
#82 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:23:02 PM
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I thought the NSE 20 gives equal weight to all the stocks included and therefore Safaricom's decline would not hold down the index. The NASI on the other hand, allocates weights to the different stocks depending on their market capitalization. The NASI would therefore overstate the contribution of Safaricom to the market’s performance. www.businessdailyafrica....0/-/6tt3elz/-/index.html But the index is mainly of supreme importance to those who trade it (hisah na wengine). They ride the market rallies. The rest just trade/invest in stocks regardless of the index.
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sheep
#83 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:27:13 PM
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The Dow is playing a dangerous game...remember we are in a cyclical bull within a secular bear.
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
hisah
#84 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:57:53 PM
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sheep wrote:
The Dow is playing a dangerous game...remember we are in a cyclical bull within a secular bear.


I still think I'm dreaming seeing the way Dow rallied from the 10K floor to 10800s since Sept 1st on very bogus US econ data and a selling bout by smart money in August. The same applies to SPX500, NASDAQ, DAX, FTSE and most major markets. All through Sept, the rally has been on very low volume. That's not a bullish market indicator. Also most major market upswings have been on gap ups. Those gaps will eventually get filled. I'm most bearish the US stocks since the rally has been supported by the Fed bank's POMO, which has been a twin treasurys offering and equities ramp up exercise. The rally is unsustainable and I expect the May lows to be broken once smart money comes back to sell. Germany has already imposed short-selling restrictions recently - the euro debt crisis is still very around and not going away soon. The same was done in US in 2008 months before the huge selloff.

As for NSE, I'm still sceptical of this rally too. Thin volume being my main reason. Our econ fundamentals are by far better than 2008 or 2009, but a bull market's robust momentum rides on steriods called solid buy volumes. A simple 1yr NSE chart with the volume indicator shows volume drought since end of June. And for this reason I don't expect 5000 to be broken by year end. And if a major selloff hits global stocks (very likely in between now and Dec), NSE will also retrace this thin volume rally.

I know this doesn't sound pleasing, but emotions aside, the global macro data is lean if not pathetic and a sharp global markets selloff will kool off NSE for a while. But at least it should sustain better than 2008 when PEV, drought and money crisis came all at once.
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#85 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:23:59 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
guru, we thought the Ksh. 130 million KCB traded yesterday was huge. EABL today moved shares worth Ksh. 391.79 million. C R A Z Y !

fund managers keen on sexing up their quarterly reports
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#86 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:44:12 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
I thought the NSE 20 gives equal weight to all the stocks included and therefore Safaricom's decline would not hold down the index. The NASI on the other hand, allocates weights to the different stocks depending on their market capitalization. The NASI would therefore overstate the contribution of Safaricom to the market’s performance. www.businessdailyafrica....0/-/6tt3elz/-/index.html But the index is mainly of supreme importance to those who trade it (hisah na wengine). They ride the market rallies. The rest just trade/invest in stocks regardless of the index.


I thought you could not be correct on your first statement above. However, I have ascertained that:

The NSE is an equi-weighted geometric mean of the 20 constituent counters.
mukiha
#87 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:16:44 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
I am also bullish on ugali . I like the way supply is coming up at 14.50 and getting taken up .

So where exactly do you stand?

In another thread you are really bashing Ugali...
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#88 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:23:45 AM
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mukiha wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
I am also bullish on ugali . I like the way supply is coming up at 14.50 and getting taken up .

So where exactly do you stand?

In another thread you are really bashing Ugali...

He has no stand because he probably isn't on the NSE
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mlennyma
#89 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:42:32 AM
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Did i say safcom has mis-lead many on the perfomance of the nse?
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Sober
#90 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:17:32 AM
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do you know how hard it is for a single counter to affect the index by a big margin?
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youcan'tstopusnow
#91 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 7:16:17 AM
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Kenyan Economy Gains Momentum www.businessdailyafrica....48/-/xmqo3a/-/index.html
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youcan'tstopusnow
#92 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 8:19:50 AM
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NSE deemed to be expensive www.businessdailyafrica....36/-/m3pst4/-/index.html
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guru267
#93 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 10:15:25 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:

The NSE is not expensive at all and anyone who thinks so can watch from the sidelines....

Profits will catch up and thats what these american companies are missing....


One example is housing finance current P/E is 25 but when results are announced it will be 13
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