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Anyone with first hand info how I can import used clothes and shoes in bulk containers from abroad and the requirements? I'm researching and any info from SK will be highly appreciated in my endeavour to invest and create more jobs. Also if I can get bulks/bales for sale in Mombasa and for how much and location. Good evening. OnLy deaD FiSh gO WiTh tHe floW....!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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@Jaribu,
Which jobs will be created i.e apart from transportation of the stuff from the port?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/5/2009 Posts: 117 Location: Taehan Minkook.
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@jaribu. Get in touch through plpglobalinc@gmailcom. When i see my purple,you see it not. when i see my purple, you see it not!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 571
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Importing second hand clothes/shoes doesn't create jobs.It kills jobs.Kenyans have a misconception of second hand things.While they believe that they are cheaper(the real junkies are).Most used clothes in Kenya sell at higher prices than when they were new in their countries of origin.
Ali Baba
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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@AliBaba; while I agree with you that imported second hand goods kill jobs,I find it hard to believe that 'Most used clothes in Kenya sell at higher prices than when they were new in their countries of origin.' Can you give an example to support your assertion? E.g.,a new pair of jeans costs XXX in USA while a used mtumba is YYY in Kenya Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow) Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/23/2007 Posts: 441
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holler
taitataveta at gmail dot com
no stories,no time wasters,just real facts of what i asked for.
thanks and God bless.
OnLy deaD FiSh gO WiTh tHe floW....!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/6/2007 Posts: 1,177 Location: Nairobi - Kenya
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@ ali baba and they don't kill jobs per see... just walk to the open markets in gikomba,mutindwa,kibera,jogoo among others (not mentioning sunbeam & other stalls in the city) and you will realize how many people rely on the mitumba! When you run so fast to get somewhere,you miss the fun of getting there... Life is not a race,so take it slowly.... When you hear what I say, you will not understand. When you see what I do, you will not comprehend
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2007 Posts: 127
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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@kamaa,
If these are jobs then it only means more compe thus,the ones already doing these 'jobs' will earn less
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 571
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MUKIHA,
Shoes for instance.If u ask the price of second hand shoes at say Nyayo mkt,those sellers charge higher prices for those shoes than new ones in countries like USA !! Exhibition stalls.If you go to some of those stalls and ask for those newer shirts hang on their walls,you might be surprised.Most of those shirts (and some are used) sell at higher prices than same shirts in USA's Walmart store.But kenyans who are so blinded by Gikomba things think they are getting a deal.Wake up guys and smell the coffee!
Ali Baba
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/7/2007 Posts: 4
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Im based in mombasa and in biznes.get in touch thru; bwadongo@yahoo.comTuendelee ama tusiendelee
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/23/2008 Posts: 12
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mukiha,
Ali Baba is correct. I have done an experiment with jeans. New US jeans cost as low as $20,depending on where you shop; the average price is $30-45. Mitumba jeans in those so called exhibition halls,some poor imitations,cost from Ksh4000 upwards. Compare and contrast. Prices for t-shirts/polos are even more laughable. Kenyans wear some of the most expensive cloths in the world. Somebody was bold enough to quote an 'imported' suit at Ksh18000,something one could get brand new retail at half that price or less.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 571
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MKTPLZ,
I've been doing the experiment and comparing items in kenya's exhibition stalls,shops and supermarkets.Kenyan products are quite expensive considering they are sold in small quantities.Kenyans are being ripped off by this greedy businessmen.The only cheap thing in kenya is raw food like cabbages,collard greens,etc.
Ali Baba
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/6/2008 Posts: 632
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This is very true about different prices here and elsewhere,case and point there were some sandals that were a hit in the UK over summer and were retailing for GBP 10,now we walked in into Mr Price with my wife only to find the same sandals retailing at KSH 4,500..surely!! and please save me the margins talk... Success is not measured by what you accomplish,but by the opposition you have encountered and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against the overwhelming odds' The greatest danger in times of turbulence is not the turbulence; it is to act with yesterday's logic.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 571
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JARIBU,
I know you are getting ready to rip off kenyans by over-charging used clothes.Just pause abit and listen to your inner self.Do you still want to exploit people who are hungry,jobless,etc.Our GOOD LORD will reward you if you show compassion.Poor kenyans have been ripped-off for more than fifty years by people who they trusted most....listen to yourself!
Ali Baba
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Many of these second hand clothes are made in Kenya EPZ's,shipped to the west and returned here second hand,so to some degree we are doing the job of shonaring nguo,otherwise the economics of second hand goods in the third world is very complex, it is not straight away a negative in many ways,a proper analysis would qualify for a Doctorate. Now Jaribu,you may have the money to venture into some business,know how it works etc,but find that it is tightly controlled by a group of Mafia like women as i have often hard is the case with this business. That's when people get shot and others are left saying 'they shot him and they didn't take anything',just do your research. I am a general consultant,specializing in all areas. A New Kenya
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 571
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MUCH KNOW
I think you know very little.You must be an imbecile moron.
Ali Baba
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Ali baba I will not engage in a name calling contest or even call you the anal retentive fella you are,if you have an argument,give it out in mature prose and disqualify my assertions through logical discourse. I am a general consultant,specializing in all areas. A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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@AliBaba & Marketplaaz..... I am shocked...that anyone in their right mind would pay sh4,000 for a used pair of jeans or shoes!!! With 4,000-bob,I will pick two pairs of brand new jeans and a pair of brand new pair of shoes [three items in all] at Enka-Rasha....and this is not the cheapest shop in town Or if I like,a brand new suit....and if I go to Bunyala Market,I will get a findi to make two suits with the money!!!! Anyone spending that kind of money on a pair of used jeans deserves to be ripped off...heck,if I were the trader,I'd charge them 8,000!!!! Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow) Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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@RickDees, Mr. Price is cheap for those regularly shop at Woolworths...same sandals at the latter would have been 7,000-bob ....but then again; GBP10 = sh1,200 ...add freight+clearing+forwarding at 10% and you have sh1,320 ...add import duty at 25% and you have sh1,650 ...add excise duty at 15% and you have sh1,897.50 ...add VAT at 16% and you have sh2,201.10 ...add their mark-up at 100% and you get sh4,402.20 ....round it UP to a round figure....sh4,500.... Of course that assumes they are purchasing from a retail outlet in the UK!!!! Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow) Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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