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Why do they kill?
Wendz
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:56:39 AM
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Have you noticed how many murders are reported these days where a man has killed his family? or a family member has killed another? What's happening with us people? why would a man want to kill his wife and children? Why not just leave her? Or if he has to kill, why not kill himself? And why kill the children to get back at her? The kids are innocent....... Who understands this madness? do they just wake up one day and just kill or is it something they have been contemplating for a while? What signs should one look out for in a spouse who can do such a heinous act? Do they give forewarning? if someone threatens that they can kill, should they be taken seriously or is it just bluff? Should it be reported to the police? Knowing our police force, would that increase the chances of him/her becoming more aggressive?

Its questions that keep nagging me and i dont seem to understand....and the incidences are becoming way too many..... And not just in kenya. http://www.malawivoice.com/latest-news/y/

Can anyone who has some background/experience with psychology of killers enlighten us.
simonkabz
#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:06:13 PM
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Simple. Women are becoming intollerable. A man is a proud animal, n his ego must never be touched! Many women dont knw this, and thats when the aggressive animal in him takes over (akin to releasing a caged dangerous animal) n shit hits the fan...Again, a good no. Of men cant control this animal once it comes out...
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mwenza
#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:11:14 PM
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muganda
#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:15:26 PM
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Agreed very concerning. I've been told that it's a clear symptom of depression resulting in irrational behaviour.

I remember on another thread http://www.wazua.co.ke/forum.as...ts&m=95737#post95737 I queried why it seems to affect so many children these days.

However, depression seems to be rampant in Kenya society today. So the clear things to look out for in depression:
http://www.helpguide.org...diagnosis_treatment.htm
The Real Shaft
#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:31:57 PM
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We are trained how to treat sickness...

and little on prevention....

mental health, as a major function....

of the overall health status of an individual...

is really examined...

until we tear our clothes from our bodies....

or the tyres of cars....

well administered psychology prevents...

a visit to the psychiatrist....

sadly we do not think we are ill...

until we drop dead....

many of us are walking madmen.....

with elaborate release valves....

like alcohol.....

pornography....

road rage....

violence....

multiple and never ending sexual relations...

all these are signs...

thus...

look for the trained hand...

to release that tension......

stress....

anguish...

before the mind erupts...

with pangas....

and more death....
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
Pastor M
#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:52:57 PM
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@Wendz...I would try and answer You asked do they just wake up one day and just kill or is it something they have been contemplating for a while? What signs should one look out for in a spouse who can do such a heinous act? Do they give forewarning?
Yes there are sign a murderer is like suicidal they keep saying their intention infact there is lady in our church whom we advised to separate because the hubby keeps telling her that one of them will go to morgue and the other one to prison.Also animal cruelty when having sex and if the person abuses drugs kama bangi etc
Wendz
#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:21:44 PM
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@Simonkabz.....true, i know we arent angels.... my only question is, why doenst he just walk away and leave her, divorce, separate, get married to someone else?

@muganda & TRS - But is this depression carried on for years and years? Even when the family seems to be doing better than they were earlier? We used to hear of these with the poor members of the community, but it is creeping in to the middle class and the rich. Problem is, if someone doesnt believe they are sick, are they really going to accept to go for help? Just like the way the mad men/women insist they arent sick...

@pastor
i hear you loud and clear. I think sometimes there is this thing that keeps telling you that they spoke out of anger and they will come back to their senses when they cool down. There was this case, actually two, where a lady had separated with the husband and the husband was given visitation rights. One of the times he picked the kids (I think the lady lived in Umoja/mutindwa) they never came back.. he killed them and killed himself and left a note written in their blood.... some men are not able to take rejection very kindly/calmly.
Pastor M
#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:33:00 PM
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@Wendz if you hear anyone saying I will kill,or he says nitajiua that should awaken your alarms...In my counseling to young people about dating and courtship I advise them if you have a partner (man or woman) who is over possesive,slaps you,and abuses in your dating think of a way you can terminate that relationship.
Surealligator
#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:34:38 PM
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@Wendz

Men from Western parts of the country have a tendency of letting their relatives know about their predicament through the media. The best way for them, according to an associate from the area, is to do nation shocking vituko so that all relatives are informed at the same time na unawacha sifa hata kama ni mbaya.

Prior to the act, the men usually sound a warning especially the veiled type. Women in most cases tend to ignore such warnings by continuing to do what prompted the threat in the first place.

That is why you find women who continue living in an abusive marriage continue to do the same mistakes (from the man's perspective) and the man continues to rain terror on her.

Why the children are dispatched also is cauze the man believes the woman is obdurate courtesy of the children as he can do nothing to her. She is the caretaker of the children and thus she believes the man cannot do without her.

The man thus has an ingrained disdain for the children. He also knows that when the children grow up and know daddy killed mummy, then he will surely be in real and imagined trouble.

If you know of someone who is facing such a crisis, send him/her to our facility at Mbagathi Way.

Our current concern is with the reducing population of children in Central Kenya. What many ppl..... let me start a thread on the same.
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Wendz
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:03:12 PM
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Surealligator wrote:
@Wendz

Men from Western parts of the country have a tendency of letting their relatives know about their predicament through the media. The best way for them, according to an associate from the area, is to do nation shocking vituko so that all relatives are informed at the same time na unawacha sifa hata kama ni mbaya.


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