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VituVingiSana
#681 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 11:13:25 AM
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@muchknow - That is the problem... We have a PS who keeps on rooting for the crooks! Heck, he defended triton then claimed it was not him!

kiraitu is a stench that stinks up every ministry he touches!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Much Know
#682 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 11:17:51 AM
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@VVS, KK is not that clean either, it is just poetic justice, live by the sword die by the sword, run broder, run!
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VituVingiSana
#683 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 11:24:45 AM
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Much Know wrote:
@VVS, KK is not that clean either, it is just poetic justice, live by the sword die by the sword, run broder, run!
Lakini, we came in post-2002... If GoK has a legit beef against biwott (who I believe misused his position as Energy Minister) then go after Biwott & his shares i.e. let GoK take Biwott's shares in KK...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
BGL
#684 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 1:43:28 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Much Know wrote:
@VVS, KK is not that clean either, it is just poetic justice, live by the sword die by the sword, run broder, run!
Lakini, we came in post-2002... If GoK has a legit beef against biwott (who I believe misused his position as Energy Minister) then go after Biwott & his shares i.e. let GoK take Biwott's shares in KK...


Forget about Biwott, he is a shareholder like any other person save for his higher stake in the company. The problem is the high handedness of Mr Segman, the Chairman & CEO of KenolKobil. He believes he can take anybody head-on on everything. But whether he is right or not is none of my business.
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hisah
#685 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 2:08:06 PM
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If we can go below 8, I'd be very happy to load up.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
VituVingiSana
#686 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 3:05:40 PM
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BGL wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Much Know wrote:
@VVS, KK is not that clean either, it is just poetic justice, live by the sword die by the sword, run broder, run!
Lakini, we came in post-2002... If GoK has a legit beef against biwott (who I believe misused his position as Energy Minister) then go after Biwott & his shares i.e. let GoK take Biwott's shares in KK...


Forget about Biwott, he is a shareholder like any other person save for his higher stake in the company. The problem is the high handedness of Mr Segman, the Chairman & CEO of KenolKobil. He believes he can take anybody head-on on everything. But whether he is right or not is none of my business.

He is right! Saying that he is high-handed when he is asking for KK's rights? That attitude in politics would have meant moi the crook would still be president!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#687 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 3:07:37 PM
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There is/was a Press Conference by MoE... I wonder what excuses nyoike & kiraitu are giving for the shortages that they claim are not there...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
cnn
#688 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 9:11:54 PM
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cnn
#689 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:17:57 AM
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mjuaji wa stocks wrote:
VVS....of course ....me too....that is what investment is all about....making money....ask buffet unless he has a plan of acquiring the whole company......talk of mr market and the greater fool theory!! smile smile

What i am saying is ... i cant accept scare mongering when i bliv in the fundamentals of the company.....i buy like nonsense....did you get your WTK dividend cheque?....mimi bado.!

I see from my account a healthy WTK cheque was deposited on Wedsday.Will find its way to the market on monday.
qw25041985
#690 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:09:44 PM
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@cnn. Console urself on kk mess w/ some KCB . We are lookin @ 40% return in a very short time. Or will u b the greater fool and invest in a none stater that is kk. Save urself thd sorrow.
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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#691 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:25:13 PM
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@qw Over what time frame do you see the 40% return. March 2011 maybe-after book closure?
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cnn
#692 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:00:18 PM
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I will continue buying KK and another industrial counter.At current prices it will give the 40% or more by April 2011.I believe in the company and you got to give it to the management that KK outlets are still up and running two months after KPRL ceased processing their crude ,and look at the pump prices(not limited to KK),they are still making money!.I feel the other big players are backing KK.That said KCB also looks good.
qw25041985
#693 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:20:53 PM
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@shauriyako. Thats a very big understatement. Technically speaking frm 19.00 to 24.00 resistance is a 40% return. There's no other resistance btwn that price range.
KCB all the way ...
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
cnn
#694 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:35:24 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
@shauriyako. Thats a very big understatement. Technically speaking frm 19.00 to 24.00 resistance is a 40% return. There's no other resistance btwn that price range.
KCB all the way ...

Tech..must be very complex.In the real world that is a 26% return,and 22% if you factor in the commissions.
Much Know
#695 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:05:30 PM
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Politics is a major part of fundamental analysis, one of the 5 key areas, if you look at a companies past performance and management, look at the TA charts or whatever, and ignore politics, well, your analysis may well fail. Your charts will never reflect a powerful politicians overnight ideas, so will the companies books not do the same. I think caution here is necessary irregardless of what other analysis point to.
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nahdy
#696 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:24:50 PM
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a leader should intervene and save this situation as the ps energy seems not to care.
PKoli
#697 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:14:10 PM
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cnn wrote:
I will continue buying KK and another industrial counter.At current prices it will give the 40% or more by April 2011.I believe in the company and you got to give it to the management that KK outlets are still up and running two months after KPRL ceased processing their crude ,and look at the pump prices(not limited to KK),they are still making money!.I feel the other big players are backing KK.That said KCB also looks good.


I totally concur with you on KCB. it has wobbled in sub 20s for far too long. It will swiftly move to the 20s very soon. Why would you want to risk on KK given the current high noise decibells?
PKoli
#698 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 6:42:27 PM
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nahdy wrote:
a leader should intervene and save this situation as the ps energy seems not to care.


The customers come first, shareholders will lag. I hope the war will end soon, else we start buying KK at 6 bob.
PKoli
#699 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:29:36 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@muchknow - That is the problem... We have a PS who keeps on rooting for the crooks! Heck, he defended triton then claimed it was not him!

kiraitu is a stench that stinks up every ministry he touches!


At this point in time we should be looking at the worst case scenario. What is the contribution of other subsidiary outlets outside Kenya to KK's bottomline? If they make more than 70% then I will buy KK at current price, else I will wait till the noise cools
Much Know
#700 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:08:16 AM
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Pkoli, maybe am wrong but i would not look beyond Kenya, its becoming difficult to outline how big Kenyas economy is, remember we have no wealth to dig up from the ground and no drop of oil like other African countries, reporting better gdp's, ours is a people driven economy, the only fast devoloping economy in a large part of Africa and bigger than some 4 or 5 our neighbour economies put together. There is probably nowhere in subsaharan Africa you can make more on petroleum. Kk kept a tanker that was refused to dock or offload at mombasa for three months before sending it to TZ, why?
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