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Zain receives HALF A MILLION NEW SUBSCRIBERS in one week
Money Whisperer
#81 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 3:01:48 AM
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Some wazuans are holding Safcom stock and they are defending it here to protect their investment. Zain is ready for the war. You don't stop a truck at your competitor's front yard with speakers blaring Bend overif your war chest is not full. Some small guys will definitely leave the kitchen but not Zain. Farasi ni tatu: Safcom, Zain and Orange. and this war is headed to new territories: data and money transfer
"Money never sleeps"
chris79
#82 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 3:04:18 AM
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I didn't know it's a crime to hold safcon shares. And if the highest point of zain's marketing strategy is singing lewd lyrics in front of their competitor's HQ then it just shows why they have failed to crack this market so far...Shame on you
hisah
#83 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:10:30 AM
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I had asked this question in another post, if cck were to force all operators to list at NSE... Jaza pengo as an investor.

Last time when vuka was the thing, scom talked a lot to media not investors and took a month to react with jibambie & didn't bother to reassure investors. This time round, they reacted, been talking to investors (mostly foreigners) while avoiding unnecessary media interviews. Seems someone learnt something from the vuka hype & all subscribers are the beneficiaries smile
What has changed for zain, a deeper pocket from bharti. Else, the same vuka hype with a 'bend over' gig at your top compes premises (unprofessional & can be sued). So scom has changed a lot from ignoring a spoiler fight even though with a promo, which leads to the next question. What if cck postpones the interconnection rates? Yu & zain would be in a fix!? Orange too put up a promo...? Both 'on promo' operators have a govt shareholding. Cck reports to... Something smells funny...?

Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to promote scom, just trying to make a clear view of this hazy media flashes. If zain tariff is doing so well, why the constant media flashes. When yu & orange came with offers sometime back, the constant media flashes were nowhere...
After all is said and done, if scom does post a 1H PBT above 10B, that should get long term investors interested. At full yr, a PBT of 18-19B (flat result) should be very bullish for the counter & very concerning to bharti after a massive price war. I'm keeping this in mind while looking for an entry (please get to 3/- or at least below 4/-) for a massive counter trend esp if full yr is a flat result.
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Jamani
#84 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:22:30 AM
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well stated Ken1979, i would like to ask those that are excited that zain got 0.5M subs in a week, do you know how many they churned just before that week? findout the churn and the customer base before and after.. i doubt the 0.5m subs have reached the churned subs and that should tell you something.
This has always been the case in all thier marketing promotions... its all hot air.
My 2 cents
#85 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:49:52 AM
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These telcom wars will not change much by year end; safcom will still be the market leader. Kencell/Zain/Bharti or whatever name they finally settle for have a tough one to pull.
ProverB
#86 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:04:25 AM
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My 2 cents wrote:
These telcom wars will not change much by year end; safcom will still be the market leader. Kencell/Zain/Bharti or whatever name they finally settle for have a tough one to pull.


Safcom pledge to shareholders to "charge for services profitably"..and consistency in pursuing profit while offering best "possible" products at prevailing economic tide is what keeps it a cut above the rest..regardless of competition..

lessons all other companies need to learn..
..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
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VituVingiSana
#87 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:29:04 AM
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LOL... bottomline?

My calling costs have halved... And I need only 2 SIMs [Orange for the 10-5 offer & Zain for all other calls]

As for Safaricom... I will buy below 4/-...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
KulaRaha
#88 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:56:05 AM
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hisah wrote:
After all is said and done, if scom does post a 1H PBT above 10B, that should get long term investors interested. At full yr, a PBT of 18-19B (flat result) should be very bullish for the counter & very concerning to bharti after a massive price war. I'm keeping this in mind while looking for an entry (please get to 3/- or at least below 4/-) for a massive counter trend esp if full yr is a flat result.


Half year numbers at 10B sounds right.

Full year at 18B??? Fantasy my friend...fantasy...they wont even touch 16B. (I estimate 15.2B).

Then in 2011.....6B for full year, max. That is if the diehards still prefer calling at higher rates than everyone else.

Long term investors, anyone?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
mwanahisa
#89 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:56:33 AM
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Long ago, I decided to do what is best for me and bought Sim cards for all operators. I use Orange for Landline calls and I am now enjoying practically free calls during the day. I also have a 3G+ Modem from Orange and a backup from Safcom.

My Safcom line remains as my default line for MPESA and receiving calls. I switched my outgoing calls very briefly to Zain and then to Yu and now I am back to the 2/= from Scom. Thanks to their Promulgation Day offer, my calls are now less than 1.50 as I topped up on their 50%+ offer.

Indeed, thanks to that offer, Safcom has also become my Preferred Internet Gateway. My Internet costs are now roughly Kshs 0.85 per MB. I bought excess airtime of which I have used part to purchase a 5GB bundle.

My POINT. Most of us are fickle consumers, with little or no loyalty to any brand. If it works for my pocket, I will embrace it. Meanwhile, I am staying away from the SCOM share until it settles a level that reflects the changed circumstances. However, if the trend for the share changes, I will definetly trade it REGARDLESS. Nothing Personal, Just Business!
mv_ufanisi
#90 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:29:02 PM
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Anyone recently been outside Zain Centers? They are crowded. I for one also moved my black berry service to Zain. So more money for them. Kenyans should be thankful to Zain for the low phone call rates they are now enjoying including Safcom die hards. Without Zain we would still be paying 8 shillings for calls. Competition is a great thing. Say no to monopolies.
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