"why o why do we complicate simplicity?? "

so well put, can say it any better.
just advice them accordingly as my pals here have mentioned and let the couple decide.

@famooz, I think it leaves a lot NOT to be desired...

@ Intelligentsia,i agree and if i were the guy,i would leave.........

This jamaa has already been dumped. There is nothing for him to dump. Men go to great lengths to impress and win over women. They take her out, buy her things and do all sorts of things. When finally the lady accepts to marry them they think that they have won and they think to themselves that the victory is due to all the hard work they had put in.

FACT is many women are the ones who decide who they want to be with. In spite of all your efforts Mwanamke huwa ameamua zamani whether you are the one or not. They have their own marking scheme and you could have failed from day one but they just went along with you, "so as not to hurt your feelings" or some other strange reason. Women can be very cruel in this regard, they can hang around a man whom they despise and they know "hata Yesu akirudi siwezi kuolewa na huyu."

@kusadikika nooo haapana. Dont generalise like so.
I know of cases where women have given in to marriage after the sheer determination of the brother has convinced them that he is terribly serious & loves them kama fundi apendavyo mbao. But the first time this same dude had made a move the women must have told the jamaaz to please get serious, they are totally not their type.

And not all women marry the men they desire, I know because there are women who really wanted me to marry them but I didn't. Same musta've happened to so many other dudes.